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#2278 [2005-03-12 14:29:42]

Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by bsher213

Hello Hello!

Hope the Subject didn’t scare you ^_^ I just wanted to get everyone’s
attention and give a big official list owner WELCOME to all the folks
who’ve joined us recently. I didn’t realize how many new members we had
until I took a glance at the members section on the yahoogroups page.

You guys have been awfully quiet so I think it would be super if we went
through a little bit of an intro/re-intro period. So here are a couple
questions I hope you’ll all take a moment to answer (even you “Old
timers” from the late lamented Miburo list0

1) Name/Nickname/Screen name whatever (+ anything you would like us to
know about you)

2) How did you “discover” the Shinsengumi?

3) Do you have a favorite Shinsengumi member? Why?

4) What Shinsengumi media have you read/seen?

5) In terms of film/television portrayals what film (or series) do you
think captured your favorite member(s) the best and why?

6) Do you have any questions that are nagging at you about any
particular Shinsengumi members or events?

Your ever-loving list"mom"

Barb Sheridan

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#2284 [2005-03-12 16:34:36]

Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by secretarytocapt3

> 1) Name/Nickname/Screen name whatever (+ anything you would like us
to know about you)

secretarytocapt3, AIM = badgerturtle, Yahoo Messenger = tnamwong
I am a graduate student with a special focus on Thailand, because I am
fully bilingual (English is my first language but with all the typos
you can never tell)...I study almost every aspect of the kingdom

I am sadly, the originator of our old "fundoshi" joke due to
babelfish's translation of Fujita Goro washing his "lower headband"
everyday. Serizawa Kamo
(http://victorian.fortunecity.com/stanford/130/bio.html), a member of
our list pointed out that the word was not "headband" but in fact
underwear. Due to this error we have developed a fascination with
fundoshi and its fashion possibilities here in the west...read my idea
here
http://www.livejournal.com/users/demonscircular/4427.html

I am also deeply interested in studying law enforcement...a little
from the Tokugawa but mostly during the Meiji era and a little of the
modern police. I have side interests in things related to Aizu, the
Joushitai especially. I've always loved persimmons I'm so happy there
are persimmons in Aizu...should I ever visit Aizu I'll be eating
dozens upon dozens of this fruit. My dream is to visit various
Shinsengumi related locations, Aomori included, and experience the
locations during the exact day/time variuos events occurred. I would
even want to camp out at Buddha Hall and walk around the castle at
various times of the day. AND walk the Kyoto patrol route during the
hours the Shinsengumi worked.

> 2) How did you "discover" the Shinsengumi?
Rurouni Kenshin...I fell in love with Saitou's voice, BODY, his way of
life and how he slipped his most deepest secret....the existence of
TOKIO ::gasp::

So I've loved Saitou since the late 1990s and revived my interest in
2003 at the now gone saitou-hajime.com before coming here

> 3) Do you have a favorite Shinsengumi member? Why?
Saitou Hajime, Nakajima Nobori, Yamazaki Susumu, Shimada Kai and
Habutae Miki. Saitou is a very complex man with *issues* and
ultimately I believe he tried his best in every role he assumed or
ordered to perform. To top it off...he married a woman of Aizu. I
think that he stayed in Aizu for more reasons than just blind loyalty
(or the widely accepted theory that he was their spy)...there is more
to the story. I think Saitou had a reserve of not only physical
strength as a warrior but mental strength as well from the description
of his death.

Nakajima Nobori similarly was a man of many talents and his decision
to join the Shinsengumi affected his family life. The love and skill
poured into the production of his paintings is his expression of
sincerity towards comrades he lost. Yamazaki Susumu like some members
of the Shinsengumi had other options besides joining a police
troop---but he obviously put his skills to good use. The information
gathering arm in the shinsengumi is most complex and sadly reduced to
simple cross dressing and ninja stereotypes.

Shimada Kai is to me loveable...his wife was lucky he COULDn'T DRINK
even if he wanted to! I want to learn more about everyone but until
we get a translation company together to publish these books we'll
never have access to details.

I do love Hijikata Toshizo however my interest is very superficial (I
saw the picture ---end of story) I can't think of him beyond his good
looks.

Miki, was a good man caught up in circumstances beyond his control. He
also had a charitable side and prayed for the men who murdered his
brother, yes he tried to exact revenge (which was a ok under the
circumstance) ....simply he had more strength than we can even gauge.
Miki is the butt of our jokes and even his guardian fangirl
accidentally be-littles him...quote from PHIL....(^_^)
(Suzuki may have been sent to the Tokaido, the eastern road connecting
Edo and
Kyoto... not sure about that yet... no big deal since his Second
Patrol was disbanded two weeks after it was created.)
>
> 4) What Shinsengumi media have you read/seen?
all the ones Barb mentioned

> 5) In terms of film/television portrayals what film (or series) do
you think captured your favorite member(s) the best and why?

Rurouni Kenshin's Fujita Goro to me is how I imagine historical Fujita
Goro when he was at work. From my readings on police mentality...they
divide work and home and adopt almost different personalities in each
sphere.

Shinsengumi Keppuroku = Hijikata, Okita (both characters HIGHLY
believable)...a series which at times captures the complexity of the
situation better than NHK

MIbugishiden = OKita (for his dark portrayal), Saitou is a bit too
rude/rough which actually flies against my own view of historical
Saitou...Mibugishiden was too keen on contrasting Saitou with
Yoshimura...but Koichi Saitou is too darn SEXY

Mibugishiden Nagakura...that face those eyes...we NEED MORE NAGAKURA
and I can imagine this actor to be more sociable like historical
Nagakura too!

NHK = Hijikata (has the looks but not the *presence), Serizawa Kamo
(PERFECT), Saitou (good but why make up the carving detail while
LEAVING OUT his practice time with Yamazaki Susumu?) but I love JO
ODAGIRI, Yamanami Keisuke (superior acting, and the thoughtful
narrowing of eyes) he carries the drama of the series ....ITOU +
TAKEDA Itou is sooo cold blooded, devious and hot...and Takeda is
just funny

NHK has sacrificed historical detail (which can be presented in an
interesting way) because they don't have faith in the audience. I
have said to myself many times that a time of hardcore fans could
write better scripts using this cast. The series is uneven and is
rescued by some of the stronger actors (thankfully). But now it will
take a while for new fans to work past the fictional devices to get to
the really good stuff.

> 6) Do you have any questions that are nagging at you about any
> particular Shinsengumi members or events?

Too many to post

I'm very open minded and for every *positive interpretation for a
person or situation I have a *dark interpretation as well. I have my
own vision of a Shinsengumi narrative set in modern times which does
not simply "modernize" them superficially. The struggles of the
Shinsengumi is also a matter of social class, and ultimately universal
,tragic and are participants in history as well as victims. We have
overlooked their lives as martial arts practitioners and people who
*think and *change. I frequently imagine the survivors reflecting on
their tumultuous youth and the pain of having to keep their past to
themselves from new families and friends who would never be able to
understand.

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#2286 [2005-03-12 17:20:21]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by spiritus_saitou

secretary <secretarytocapt3@...> wrote:

>>Due to this error we have developed a fascination with
fundoshi and its fashion possibilities here in the west... <<

ahem... I developed MY fundoshi fetish a LONG time ago... for *cough* aesthetic *cough* reasons. ^_^

>>Miki is the butt of our jokes and even his guardian fangirl
accidentally be-littles him...quote from PHIL....(^_^)
(Suzuki may have been sent to the Tokaido, the eastern road connecting Edo and Kyoto... not sure about that yet... no big deal since his Second Patrol was disbanded two weeks after it was created.)<<

What!!?? I wasn't belittling him with that. How much could he have realistically done in a mere 13 days? Stupid Imperialists... I have *no* doubt that Miki would've been as successful as Sagara was (and Sagara was successful, which was part of the problem for the Imperialists) if he'd been allowed to do the job. From what I've understood from texts, it was the men in the Second Patrol who wanted him as their captain. There had to be a reason. (And it wasn't his fault he had a domineering, overprotective big brother in the Shinsengumi. *pinching Barb*)

phil


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#2288 [2005-03-12 23:00:33]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by warg3791

1) Name/Nickname/Screenname: Warg3791 on AIM. I go by MissBehavin (MissB) on
the list.

2) How did you "discover" the Shinsengumi? The first time I saw the
Shinsengumi was in the RK OVA.

3) Do you have a favorite Shinsengumi member? Why? Anyone here can tell you I
am completely obsessed with the Shinsengumi Fukuchou (Vice-Commander)
Hijikata Toshizo. His strength of character, his conviction to follow his own
beliefs, and his loyalty to his cause are inspiring to me. Over time it has become
clear to me that his character has been much maligned by history and the media.
He was not the evil "demon" that some would have people believe. Rather he
was a man dedicated to both his friends and his followers, who willingly rode
into danger in a futuile attempt to save his "Shinsengumi".

The accounts we have of him actually suggest that he was very well liked and
respected by the Shinsengumi members. Many followed him all the way to
Hakodate, despite their cause being hopeless. An account one of them left behind said
they "cried like babes who had lost their mother" when they were later told
of his death.

Perhaps the most intriguing thing about him was the fact that he was born a
mere farmer. By law he should have never held a sword or any position of
authority. However it was his dream to become a samurai and through a strange mix of
luck and sheer determination he and Kondo both rose to unheard of heights of
power for men of their class. By the end Hijikata was leading the army in Ezo.
Those who fought with him said he "died more samurai than the real samurai".

I believe Katsu Kaishu summed his life up best when he said Hijikata was "one
man of great caliber."

4) What Shinsengumi media have you read/seen? I have seen the RK OVA and
anime and I am reading the Viz version of the manga now. I have seen PMK and most
of NHK. Saw Gohatto, Sword of Doom, and Shinsengumi Keppuroku. I would love to
get my hands on one of those Shinsengumi video games, but that is probably a
pipe dream...

5) In terms of film/television portrayals what film (or series) do you think
captured your favorite members(s) the best and why?
So far, I think that Shinsengumi Keppuroku did the best job of presenting
Hijikata Toshizo's character. He did not come across to me as unnecessarily cruel
or "grumpy", nor does he seem blinded to all else by his convictions. Case in
point, he tells Okita after Yamanami's "escape" that "if you -don't see him-,
come back and report." Okita presses him by saying "you mean let him escape?"
Hijikata replies "I mean if you -don't see him- come back and report." While
it is made perfectly clear that he must and will uphold the beliefs of the
Shinsengumi even against a friend, it is equally clear that he does in fact care
about his friend and has no intention of hounding him mercilessly to his
death.

6) Do you have any questions that are nagging at you about any particular
Shinsengumi members or events?
I would love to find out exactly what happened at Utsunomiya. I know that
Hijikata was injured there, but not much else. I would also love to find out more
about the famous Sanjo bridge incident. Any information about Hijikata's
various lovers would be nice too. The only one I have heard anything about is the
woman he was supposed to marry back in Tama...


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#2298 [2005-03-13 08:26:30]

Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by themightysupercracker

> 1) Name/Nickname/Screen name whatever (+ anything you would like
us to
> know about you)

Chris deMonch/no nickname worth mentioning/YagyuKengo

> 2) How did you "discover" the Shinsengumi?

I think it was a combination of my sensei mentioning them in passing
(his Aikido instructor in Osaka was also a shihan in Tennen Rishin
Ryu and an amatuer historian of the Shinsengumi) and Rurouni Kenshin.

> 3) Do you have a favorite Shinsengumi member? Why?

Saito Hajime. No one argues that he was one of the strongest
swordsmen in the group. I've also got a soft spot in my heart for
kenshi who liked to drink.

> 4) What Shinsengumi media have you read/seen?

R Kenshin, read some Peacemaker Kurogane, Band of Assassins with
Mifune, Gohatto, Mibu Gishiden.

> 5) In terms of film/television portrayals what film (or series) do
you
> think captured your favorite member(s) the best and why?

I personally really liked Mifune as Kondo. I also liked the Saito
portrayal in Mibu Gishiden, though it sent me into a rage that they
put his swords on his right hip instead of the left. I'll buy that
Saito had a left handed thrust or may have been naturally left
handed, but the conventions of the time had everyone growing up
right handed. Wearing his swords on the right hip woulda had him
knocking saya with and having to fight everyone he came across. It
just didn't happen.

> 6) Do you have any questions that are nagging at you about any
> particular Shinsengumi members or events?

The Saito swords on the right hip thing. Outside of that no real
beefs with any of the Shinsengumi or their portrayals.

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#2299 [2005-03-13 08:53:58]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by warg3791

Just wanted to say hello the folks who have responded so far. Akaiken Hogo,
"K" :D, and Chris welcome to the group! We hope to be hearing a lot more from
all of you very soon.

Chris, your instructor studied Tennin Reshin Ryu AND the Shinsengumi?! I
think I have a new hero... :D

-MissB


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#2300 [2005-03-13 08:59:15]

Chris-Tennen Rishin

by bsher213

Please tell us more and if you're feeling especially industrious perhaps
you'll compile your thoughts into a report for the website? ^_^

--
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http://www.barbarasheridan.net
The Blog-- http://barbarasheridan.blogspot.com/

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#2301 [2005-03-13 09:20:32]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by okitakaneyoshi

Hi hi! :D

Oh you will, MissB :D I've got a *lot* of questions... but that won't be until later... (I hope you wouldn't mind *eep*)


Just wanted to say hello the folks who have responded so far. Akaiken Hogo, "K" :D, and Chris welcome to the group! We hope to be hearing a lot more from all of you very soon.

-MissB


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#2302 [2005-03-13 10:14:38]

Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by themightysupercracker

Well, yes and no. At the Aikido dojo my sensei trained at in Osaka
there were teachers from 4 groups of classical Heiho, of which
Tennen Rishin Ryu was only one. He ended up training in Yagyu
Shinkage Ryu, which is what he brought back with him and I train in
now. However, because he was in so tight with Yoshida Sensei he got
the chance to learn some of TRR's kihon (which he often reminds me
ins't much).
Tennen Rishin Ryu uses very thick, heavy bokken. Much larger than
other styles like Jigen Ryu or Jikishinkage Ryu (the bokuto we use
in Yagyu Ryu is a twig by comparison). It's techniques are very
indicative of the "Beater" styles that became popular at the end of
the Edo Jidai. Most of the techniques seem to involve bashing the
opponent's sword aside and thrusting into his throat. The style was
described to me as something to get people reasonably good with a
sword very fast.
By contrast Yagyu Shinkage Ryu can best be described as a "Baiting"
style, where you offer up an apparent opening to get an opponent to
attack the way you want him to and cut him down when he does. Can
be very formidable once you have it down, but you're not going to
get it fast at all.

I've been a lurker here for a while and have enjoyed all the obscure
info dug up here. Thanks all for the warm reception.

-Chris

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, Warg3791@a... wrote:
> Just wanted to say hello the folks who have responded so far.
Akaiken Hogo,
> "K" :D, and Chris welcome to the group! We hope to be hearing a
lot more from
> all of you very soon.
>
> Chris, your instructor studied Tennin Reshin Ryu AND the
Shinsengumi?! I
> think I have a new hero... :D
>
> -MissB
>
>
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#2308 [2005-03-14 03:35:15]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by okitasoji

1) Name/Nickname/Screenname: OkitaSoji on AIM. Okita Souji on the list and OkitaSoujiSSG on the board.

2) How did you "discover" the Shinsengumi?: The first time I saw the
Shinsengumi was in Rurouni Kenshin.

3) Do you have a favorite Shinsengumi member? Why?:
I like Okita Souji because he was one of the skilled swordsmen in the Shinsengumi and because he's rumored to have a good attitude. I also like Hijikata Toshizo and Saitou Hajime.

4) What Shinsengumi media have you read/seen?:
Rurouni Kenshin TV/OAV, Kaze Hikaru, NHK Shinsengumi!, Shinsengumi Keppuroku, Various other Shinsengumi movies.

5) In terms of film/television portrayals what film (or series) do you think
captured your favorite members(s) the best and why?:
I'm with MissB on Hijikata from Shinsengumi Keppuroku. I also like Saitou from the NHK drama because of his cool attitude.

6) Do you have any questions that are nagging at you about any particular
Shinsengumi members or events?:
Hmm...this is a hard one, I'll get back to you all on that.


~Okita

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#2314 [2005-03-15 10:03:39]

Re: Admin: Important Shinsengumi Business

by autumnriver

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, BarbaraSheridan wrote:

>
> 1) Name/Nickname/Screen name whatever (+ anything you would like us to
> know about you)
>

I'm Maria. Online I tend to go by the screen names szabotage or
reynardine. I'm mostly interested in ancient Japanese history, but
the Shinsengumi caught my attention and so now I'm enjoying learning
about the late Tokugawa/early Meiji eras as well. I've been lurking
for quite awhile (actually used to lurk on the Miburo list as well
, but rarely post. Enjoy reading what people have to say, though.

> 2) How did you "discoverEthe Shinsengumi?
>
Rurouni Kenshin. The manga, actually--that flashback picture of the
guys just caught my attention and I've been devoted ever since.

> 3) Do you have a favorite Shinsengumi member? Why?
>
Well, Saitou was my first love. I think the fact that he survived and
had to live out his life in the new era is poignant. It's one thing
to go out in a blaze of glory. It's quite another to have to live
having been defeated.

After seeing the NHK version, I've become interested in Yamanami
Keisuke. He seems to have been an honorable man and it's hard to
understand the circumstances of how he died, especially considering
the rank he held.

> 4) What Shinsengumi media have you read/seen?
>
Hmm. Lesseee:

Shinsengumi Keppuroku: not my favorite, thought it was kinda stilted

the entire NHK series: Loved it!!!

PMK manga/anime: I've only seen what's been released so far in the
US. Have enjoyed it, especially the anime.

Kaze Hikaru manga: entire series so far--the style is girly, but it's
a really well-written story. Glad it's being released here in North
America, hopefully Viz won't screw up the translation too badly. :-P

Kunoichi: Deadly Mirage: see here
http://www.livejournal.com/users/reynardine/56002.html
for my spoiler-filled review of this immortal work ;-D

Always looking for more Shinsengumi-related manga.

I so very much want to see Mibu Gishiden, but am holding out to see if
there will be a region 1 DVD release. I'm a great fan of (the actor)
Sakai Masato and can't wait to see his portrayal of Okita!

> 5) In terms of film/television portrayals what film (or series) do you
> think captured your favorite member(s) the best and why?

the NHK series really captured the feelings I had about some members
(although I know it wasn't exactly historically accurate in places).
Sakai Masato's portrayal of Yamanami Keisuke was brilliant. Through
small things (narrowing his eyes, his formal movements, his hesitant
speaking at times) he was able to convey a lot of what the character
was feeling. I also really liked Fujiwara Tatsuya's portrayal of
Okita (he's not a favorite of mine, but Fujiwara-kun did a fantastic
job!). Oh, and Sato Koichi as Serizawa Kamo. I don't know much about
Serizawa, but the angle of a man bent on his own self-destruction was
interesting, and Sato-san did a remarkable job.
>

> 6) Do you have any questions that are nagging at you about any
> particular Shinsengumi members or events?

Not at the moment. :-) May think of some later.

--Maria

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#2315 [2005-03-15 12:46:25]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Important Shinsengumi Business ^_^

by shenlong71328

1) Name/Nickname/SN:
I don't have AIM like everyone else, my e-mail is name is the way to find me on MSN messanger (except that instead of yahoo. com it's hotmail.com ^^;;). I normally go by the name WhiteRabbit/ Bunneh anywhere I go, but seeing as how common this is I ended up using the name Eeni for just about everything I do online now a days.

2) How did you "discover" the Shinsengumi?:
First saw them on Rurouni Kenshin and wondered for the longest time wether the lil character called "Okita" was a girl (I'm sure I'm not the only who ever thought this). A few years later, I started doing a lil research for my Kenshin fanfic and I ran across the Shinsengumi once again. Being the ignorant person I was, I was amazed to find out that they in fact were a real group of people. I read a lil more about them and was even more amazed. So to this day, I'm still trying to read as much about them as I can.

3) Do you have a favorite Shinsengumi member? Why?:
Serizawa Kamo and Okita Souji. Oktia because he's always said to have been a guy who would rather have a good laugh then be serious ^_^ As for Kamo, I was reading about him on the Kamo biography page and just thought, this guy didn't take shit from anyone. Kondou forgot to count him into the number of people staying at an inn, it's ok with him... but if he can't sleep comfortably, no one else will. BONFIRE!!!!

4) What Shinsengumi media have you read/seen?:
Rurouni Kenshin (manga/anime), NHK Shinsengumi!, and PeaceMaker (manga only)

5) In terms of film/television portrayals what film (or series) do you think captured your favorite members(s) the best and why?:
I have no idea...

6) Do you have any questions that are nagging at you about any particular Shinsengumi members or events?:
How did Saitou end up marring the daiymo(sp?)'s sister. From what I understand he was a no one by birth and a pretty much the inside hitman of the Shinsengumi... so what were the politics (if any) behind this marrage????



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#2316 [2005-03-15 13:30:00]

Re: Tokio--for Bunny

by bsher213

Please check out the fact sheet on Saitou on the website. Tokio was the
daughter of an Aizu retainer not Lord Matsudaira.
http://www.shinsengumihq.com/saitouhajime.htm

We also have profiles of other members.

http://www.shinsengumihq.com/

--
Barbara Sheridan
http://www.barbarasheridan.net
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#2318 [2005-03-15 16:57:33]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Important Shinsengumi Business ^_^

by okitasoushi2001

First saw them on Rurouni Kenshin and wondered for the
longest time wether the lil character called "Okita"
was a girl (I'm sure I'm not the only who ever thought
this)

Believe me, you're not the only xDDDDD In fact, I
spent years believing he was a "she" xDDD

In fact, the first-ever spanish translation about
Okita said "Okita era la capitana de la primera tropa
del Shinsengumi. Al parecer era una mujer muy
valiente, no sólo conocida por sus habilidades con la
espada sino también por su buena apariencia.."

Which more or less means: "Okita was the captain of
Shinsengumi's first squad. She seemed to be a brave
woman, and was know not only for her good swordman
skills, but for her good looks"

(Forgive my poor English ^^Uu)

It was amazing! My fourteen year old fangirlish mind
was fascinated at Okita-sama (and continues
fascinated, now that I'm 20 xD) I even wrote a fanfic
of "her" xD And the extremely girlish Okita from PMK
didn't help me to change my mind xDDDD Imagine my face
when I discovered the truth!! ;o;

Cheers!

Anariel




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#2320 [2005-03-15 19:57:07]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Important Shinsengumi Business ^_^

by shenlong71328

Loba de Mibu <okitasoushi2001@...> wrote:

First saw them on Rurouni Kenshin and wondered for the
longest time wether the lil character called "Okita"
was a girl (I'm sure I'm not the only who ever thought
this)

Believe me, you're not the only xDDDDD In fact, I
spent years believing he was a "she" xDDD







HAHHA, I knew I wasn't the only one! And to be as honest as I can, I even thought that Soujiro in RK was also a girl (and when I first watched the sieres I thought that Soujiro and Okita were the same character, damn you Watsuki, you tricked me!). Did anyone else have this problem? Or am I just to dumb to not notice the obvious?

De donde eres? No te preocupes, entiendo bien el espa�ol.




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#2321 [2005-03-15 20:05:52]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Tokio--for Bunny

by shenlong71328

BarbaraSheridan <bsher213@...> wrote:Please check out the fact sheet on Saitou on the website. Tokio was the
daughter of an Aizu retainer not Lord Matsudaira.
http://www.shinsengumihq.com/saitouhajime.htm

We also have profiles of other members.

http://www.shinsengumihq.com/

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I think I didn't phrase it correctly... what I meant to say was why was Saitou chosen to be her husband? If there is any particular reason as to why those two were married.


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#2322 [2005-03-16 05:50:23]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Tokio--for Bunny

by warg3791

That's never been explained to my satisfaction actually. Saitou was married
to some woman named Yasu while in Aomori. But when he left for Tokyo she
remained behind. He married Tokio shortly after his arrival. But as for why? No one
seems to know exactly. There have been a lot of guesses made, but I don't like
to speculate myself...

-MissB


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#2326 [2005-03-16 07:03:09]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Important Shinsengumi Business ^_^

by okitasoushi2001

Holaa!!!

Wow!!! Hablas español!!! Genial!! ^0^
Yo soy de Barcelona, encantada! ^^ Tu de dónde eres?
Pues yo también confundí a Soujirou y a Okita xD Pero
lo mío con Okita fué más fuerte, porque yo me emocioné
con el hecho de que era una chica xDD

Dije: "Woooo!! Una mujer guerrera! *_*" Y ya te digo,
el hecho de ver a la Okita de Peacemaker (porque
diooos es una tía xDDDD) no ayudó mucho a mi mente de
fangirl xD
Es muy agradable encontrar una fan del Shinsengumi de
habla hispana!! Estoy muy contenta!! ^0^

Anariel

---English version---

Hello!!

Woow!! You speak Spanish!! Great!! ^0^
I'm from Barcelona, nice to meet you! ^^ Where are you
from?

I confused Soujirou with Okita too. But my thingie
with Okita was more powerful, since I truly believed
he was a "she" I thought: "OMG! A woman warrior!!!
*__*" And as I said before, seeing PMK 's Okita didn't
help much my fangirl mind lol

It is wonderful to meet a spanish-speaker fan of the
Shinsengumi, I'm very happy!! ^0^

Anariel



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#2359 [2005-03-23 17:20:44]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Important Shinsengumi Business ^_^

by akaiken_hogo

LOL Thats great! man... I showed the cover of the first volume of pmk to a friend and told her the person on the cover was a guy ... she was like "The first unit captain was a cross dresser?


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#2360 [2005-03-23 17:23:30]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Important Shinsengumi Business ^_^

by akaiken_hogo

LOL Thats great! man... I showed the cover of the first volume of pmk
to a friend and told her the person on the cover was a guy ... she was like
"The first unit captain was a cross dresser?



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