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#2133 [2005-01-31 06:04:41]

Police + Prison (need help on the prison part)

by secretarytocapt3

I am making this dissertation by Naoyuki Umemura (University of
Chicago graduate now at Waseda Univ.) available to the group. Just
so you know dissertations (their are at least dozens dealing with
every aspect of the Meiji Era) are available in PDF form via
dissertation databases (available at all college/university library
databases).

I had this paper for several months now but I would like someone to
consider summarizing pages 159 to 206 which deals with the
Tokugawa "Benevolent Prisons" and Meiji Era prison system (there is
also a chapter at the end called Hokkaido as a space for exodus).

Just like the police system many aspects of the Tokugawa era are
carried over into the "modern" period and I guarantee that you will
come across some very interesting information.

If you are in junior high or high school *please DO NOT be
intimidated the reading is VERY VERY easy and this is your chance to
expose yourself to the kind of writing advanced students do.

*as you guys know I am researching the Meiji Era police system just
because....I'm weird (and I find it to be a good "template" for
understanding the rise of the modern nation state for other
countries, I specialize in Thailand actually) oh and I think we can
actually follow the careers of Miki and Fujita G. in an organized
manner.

file size = 10mb
https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/tnamwong/web/policeandprison.pdf

and yes you can download it without actually summarizing the prison
part for us (-_-) I'm hoping someone will *volunteer* though (^_^).
POOR Nagakura...he needs a loyal fangirl.

secretarytocapt3

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#2161 [2005-02-05 13:05:08]

Re: Police + Prison (need help on the prison part)

by secretarytocapt3

Rinalducci LLM, Ralph. The Japanese Police Establishment. Tokyo:
Obun Intereurope Limited, 1972.

*obviously the law below is way past Nagakura's time however it does
give us some insight to his daily work before he retired

(Rinalducci page 331)
article 20 of the Prison Law IMPERIAL ORDINANCE NO. 289 of 1908
Prison Guards may carry swords or rifles

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary"
wrote:
>
> I am making this dissertation by Naoyuki Umemura (University of
> Chicago graduate now at Waseda Univ.) available to the group.
Just
> so you know dissertations (their are at least dozens dealing with
> every aspect of the Meiji Era) are available in PDF form via
> dissertation databases (available at all college/university
library
> databases).
>
> I had this paper for several months now but I would like someone
to
> consider summarizing pages 159 to 206 which deals with the
> Tokugawa "Benevolent Prisons" and Meiji Era prison system (there
is
> also a chapter at the end called Hokkaido as a space for exodus).
>
> Just like the police system many aspects of the Tokugawa era are
> carried over into the "modern" period and I guarantee that you
will
> come across some very interesting information.
>
> If you are in junior high or high school *please DO NOT be
> intimidated the reading is VERY VERY easy and this is your chance
to
> expose yourself to the kind of writing advanced students do.
>
> *as you guys know I am researching the Meiji Era police system
just
> because....I'm weird (and I find it to be a good "template" for
> understanding the rise of the modern nation state for other
> countries, I specialize in Thailand actually) oh and I think we
can
> actually follow the careers of Miki and Fujita G. in an organized
> manner.
>
> file size = 10mb
> https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/tnamwong/web/policeandprison.pdf
>
> and yes you can download it without actually summarizing the
prison
> part for us (-_-) I'm hoping someone will *volunteer* though
(^_^).
> POOR Nagakura...he needs a loyal fangirl.
>
> secretarytocapt3

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#2162 [2005-02-05 14:11:05]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Police + Prison (need help on the prison part)

by sherlinelee

Sec - With respect to this topic, did you ever see this paper on the Japanese Koban? (Found it while looking for info on Kawaji.)

Christopher ALDOUS and Frank LEISHMAN, Enigma Variations: Reassessing the Koban. 2000.
http://www.nissan.ox.ac.uk/nops/nops31.pdf

It's part of the Nissan Institute white paper series... found it while researching Kawaji.

I also have some info, somewhat anecdotal, on the Tokugawa prison system.... from Charles Dunn's text "EVeryday Life in Traditional Japan." Unfortunately he doesn't provide references in the text.



S

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#2163 [2005-02-05 18:38:35]

Re: Police + Prison (need help on the prison part)

by secretarytocapt3

Thanks! Sherlgirl I will download it and read it.
Yes, the koban system is very unique but it seems, according to the
texts I have read, to be undergoing major changes in terms of its
effectiveness. And imagine the koban back in the Meiji Era! The
koban system remains in modern times because of the narrow streets
and extremely densely populated areas. It is more efficient
to "spread out" law enforcement rather than have one big police
station and dispatch personel. Koban cops are often the first
responders in all situations. Not surprisingly foreign students in
Japan are encouraged to find out where their local koban is located
should they need assistance.
some references to Kawaji are in the books/sources here
http://1happyturtle.com/NSNR/NOsleepNOrest_Bibliography.htm

alot of Kawaji's writings are quoted *slightly* out of context and
certain things like how Kawaji may have distorted information
regarding the French model to push some his own ideas. Not all of
Kawaji's writings have been translated into English.

I have alot of ****interesting koban stories from western researchers
who shadowed koban officers.

I think if the Shinsengumi are "modernized" in terms of fiction...you
do not get punished with KINSHIN...you get punished by being sent to
be a koban officer and have to spend your whole day babysitting lost
children, give directions and go door to door collecting information
from people in your jurisdiction. Because all rookies have to work a
koban for a while. Imagine chatty PMK Nagakura sent to a koban (^_^)

I have to double check Fujita Goro's timeline but since he held the
rank of sergeant at one point his job was actually to supervise koban
in his jurisdiction. BAck in that era, criminals were picked up and
escorted to the big police stations by sergeants. They had their
hands tied and the officer would hold one end of the rope (there is a
quick scene in the film LADY SNOW BLOOD the last episode of the
series).


--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, sherlgirl wrote:
> Sec - With respect to this topic, did you ever see this paper on
the Japanese Koban? (Found it while looking for info on Kawaji.)
>
> Christopher ALDOUS and Frank LEISHMAN, Enigma Variations:
Reassessing the Koban. 2000.
> http://www.nissan.ox.ac.uk/nops/nops31.pdf
>
> It's part of the Nissan Institute white paper series... found it
while researching Kawaji.
>
> I also have some info, somewhat anecdotal, on the Tokugawa prison
system.... from Charles Dunn's text "EVeryday Life in Traditional
Japan." Unfortunately he doesn't provide references in the text.
>
>
>
> S

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#2745 [2006-03-22 23:02:46]

Re: Police + Prison (need help on the prison part)

by secretarytocapt3

Does anyone know the name of the prison on Hokkaido where Nagakura
Shinpachi (Sugimura Yoshitaro) was employed during the Meiji?

If we can just get the name of the prison and a estimate of his years
there it shouldn't be too hard to piece together his daily life during
the Meiji (sort of like how the research on Takagi/Fujita Tokio was
conducted).

For example, this is a description of a low security prison at Yezo
Hokkaido
https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/tnamwong/web/MeijiPrison.zip

If anyone would like to research Nagakura in the Meiji by using his
career as a guide please try to get
Umemori, Naoyuki. "Modernization Through Colonial Mediations: The
Establishment of the Police and Prison System in Meiji Japan" DISS
University of Chicago 2002

if anyone is really serious about "adopting" Nagakura (^_^) please let
me know I think I can get a pdf copy of this dissertation, I have a
hardcopy which I'm using for the police research.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary" wrote:
>
>
> Rinalducci LLM, Ralph. The Japanese Police Establishment. Tokyo:
> Obun Intereurope Limited, 1972.
>
> *obviously the law below is way past Nagakura's time however it does
> give us some insight to his daily work before he retired
>
> (Rinalducci page 331)
> article 20 of the Prison Law IMPERIAL ORDINANCE NO. 289 of 1908
> Prison Guards may carry swords or rifles
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary"
> wrote:
> >
> > I am making this dissertation by Naoyuki Umemura (University of
> > Chicago graduate now at Waseda Univ.) available to the group.
> Just
> > so you know dissertations (their are at least dozens dealing with
> > every aspect of the Meiji Era) are available in PDF form via
> > dissertation databases (available at all college/university
> library
> > databases).
> >
> > I had this paper for several months now but I would like someone
> to
> > consider summarizing pages 159 to 206 which deals with the
> > Tokugawa "Benevolent Prisons" and Meiji Era prison system (there
> is
> > also a chapter at the end called Hokkaido as a space for exodus).
> >
> > Just like the police system many aspects of the Tokugawa era are
> > carried over into the "modern" period and I guarantee that you
> will
> > come across some very interesting information.
> >
> > If you are in junior high or high school *please DO NOT be
> > intimidated the reading is VERY VERY easy and this is your chance
> to
> > expose yourself to the kind of writing advanced students do.
> >
> > *as you guys know I am researching the Meiji Era police system
> just
> > because....I'm weird (and I find it to be a good "template" for
> > understanding the rise of the modern nation state for other
> > countries, I specialize in Thailand actually) oh and I think we
> can
> > actually follow the careers of Miki and Fujita G. in an organized
> > manner.
> >
> > file size = 10mb
> > https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/tnamwong/web/policeandprison.pdf
> >
> > and yes you can download it without actually summarizing the
> prison
> > part for us (-_-) I'm hoping someone will *volunteer* though
> (^_^).
> > POOR Nagakura...he needs a loyal fangirl.
> >
> > secretarytocapt3
>

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#2755 [2006-04-08 04:30:30]

Re: [SHQ] Re: Police + Prison (need help on the prison part)

by shikisokuzekukusokuzeshiki8

2006/3/23, secretary <secretarytocapt3@...>:
>
>
> Does anyone know the name of the prison on Hokkaido where Nagakura
> Shinpachi (Sugimura Yoshitaro) was employed during the Meiji?

Nagakura was Kenjyutsu teacher at Kabato Shuchikan prison from Meiji15 to 19.

Here
http://homepage1.nifty.com/sanshiro-photo/kabato.htm

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