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#1892 [2004-12-03 09:44:22]

Mission Impossible

by bsher213

I found the coolest thing on ebay and I'm DYING to know what it says.
It's an old haori and it has something written on it reminiscent of
Nagakura's vest with the poem. Can anyone decipher any of this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29452&item=3945022516&rd=1

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Barbara Sheridan
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#1893 [2004-12-03 10:11:21]

Re: [SHQ] Mission Impossible

by tamagot93

This is a training costume for Yamabushi, a Buddhist ascetic in the
mountain.
As for inscriptions, I see the name of Oomine san, (Oomine mountain)
nearby Nara where is a sanctuary and the training place for
Shugendo.(Bouddist ascetic in the mountain), and still now women are not
allowed to enter the place. ( Like Mount Athos )
I can notice also some Bonji ( Sanskrit inscriptions). I think one means
Boudda Achala (or Fudou in Japanese, someone could remember the tattoo
on someone's back... grin) and some of his representations.
I can recognize also inscription of Hannya Shingyo the essence of the
Prajna-paramita Sutra.
http://www.mbzc.org/resources/sutra/heart-sutra-small.html

Tama



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> It's an old haori and it has something written on it reminiscent of
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29452&item=3945022516&rd=1

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#1894 [2004-12-03 10:40:29]

Re: [SHQ] Mission Impossible

by bsher213

THANK YOU--yet Again-- Tama!!!

No wonder it caught my attention maybe some part of my brain picked up
the "Fudou connection"

*grin*

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Barbara Sheridan
http://www.barbarasheridan.net

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#1896 [2004-12-03 16:20:06]

Re: Mission Impossible

by secretarytocapt3

I would like to try to elaborate on the important point TAma gave to us
Prajna-paramita Sutra
Prajna (Praj) is wisdom
Paramita is "reaching the other shore" (its a simile where
dhamma/dharma (the way) is your raft which allows you to reach the
"shore"/nippana/nirvana/release/emptiness...paramita is "perfection"
so
Prajna-Paramita Sutra is the [Perfection of Wisdom] (a book which uses
similes to illustrate the path of the Bodhisattva)

The "essence" of the Perfection of Wisdom is also called "Prajna
paramita hrdaya sutra"

And to understand the nature of "emptiness" I guess you need to spend
alot of time in the forest alone and meditate.... (^_^)

source: The Perfection of Wisdom in Eight Thousand LInes & Its Verse
Summary by Edward Conze ISBN 0877040486 or 0877040494


--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
> I can recognize also inscription of Hannya Shingyo the essence of the
> Prajna-paramita Sutra.
> http://www.mbzc.org/resources/sutra/heart-sutra-small.html
>
> Tama
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> BarbaraSheridan wrote:
>
> >
> > I found the coolest thing on ebay and I'm DYING to know what it
says.
> > It's an old haori and it has something written on it reminiscent of
> > Nagakura's vest with the poem. Can anyone decipher any of this?
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29452&item=3945022516&rd=1

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#1897 [2004-12-03 16:38:38]

Re: Mission Impossible

by secretarytocapt3

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary" wrote:
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> I would like to try to elaborate on the important point TAma gave to us
> Prajna-paramita Sutra

***forgot***
Sutra = suture to sew up...books were sewn up so whatever comes in
front of sutra is essentially the "title" and sutra = book

Here you go Barb
http://1happyturtle.com/makoto/perfectionofwisdom.jpg

this mini OT discussion on sutras was brought to you by PMK Saitou (^_^)

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#1898 [2004-12-03 16:41:22]

Saitou Hajime/Sherlock Holmes Crossover Fic Contest

by persiphatta

I used to be on the miburo mailing list, and when it was still actively, I
remember there being a fanfic contest where the goal was to write a story
about Saitou Hajime meeting Sherlock Holmes.

Does anyone know what happened with that contest? Did it die when the
miburo list died? Or is there a website out there that's hosting it now?

Thanks!

Bonnie

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#1899 [2004-12-03 16:53:43]

Re: [SHQ] Saitou Hajime/Sherlock Holmes Crossover Fic Contest

by spiritus_saitou

It died because no one wrote anything (and mine's still about half-finished). Fortunately, it was not a contest, but just a challenge, so anyone's welcome to contribute any time they want. The information is still over on in the SHQ Spy Division files and I'll post a message in the next day or two over there.

phil

Bonnie Johnston <kallipygia@...> wrote:
I used to be on the miburo mailing list, and when it was still actively, I
remember there being a fanfic contest where the goal was to write a story
about Saitou Hajime meeting Sherlock Holmes.

Does anyone know what happened with that contest? Did it die when the
miburo list died? Or is there a website out there that's hosting it now?

Thanks!

Bonnie











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#1901 [2004-12-03 18:57:25]

Re: Mission Impossible (Mugai ryu)

by secretarytocapt3

[The following is a theory]
maybe the discussion on the Prajna-paramita Sutra is not so off topic
after all.
Mugai ryu is the dominant lineage practiced by Saitou Hajime (he
practiced more than one)
This is based on what Mugai ryu "sounds" like and not the actual
characters (I don't know Japanese).
[MU-Gai-Ryu]
ryu = as we know from RK is lineage

Gai (1 syllable word) = [sounds] like Gaay or Kaya (2 syllable words)
which is "body" "shape" or "form" (the word has indic origins) when
either pali or sanskrit gets transferred into another language such as
Japanese some basic phonological changes take place

*for example the last syllable in pali or Sanskrit words is dropped
when the word enters Thai (a Southeast Asian language) and the word
gaay in Thai today still means "body"

So I made a parallel comparison and try to better understand the name
of the lineage

Mugai ryu according to NIfty's crude translation is "NO OUTER FORM"

the lack of form is related to...formlessness/emptiness and
"tracelessness" a major point in the Prajna Paramita Hrdaya Sutra or
Heart Sutra

so in a nutshell....the Ebay item actually may have shed some light,
for me atleast, on the meaning of "Mugai"

secretarytocapt3
who finds these possible connections so cool :)
Ebay is turning out to be a great learning tool

> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary" wrote:
> >
> > I would like to try to elaborate on the important point TAma gave
to us
> > Prajna-paramita Sutra
>
> ***forgot***
> Sutra = suture to sew up...books were sewn up so whatever comes in
> front of sutra is essentially the "title" and sutra = book
>
> Here you go Barb
> http://1happyturtle.com/makoto/perfectionofwisdom.jpg
>
> this mini OT discussion on sutras was brought to you by PMK Saitou (^_^)

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#1902 [2004-12-04 04:50:36]

Re: Mission Impossible

by momomanjyuu2004

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, BarbaraSheridan wrote:
> I found the coolest thing on ebay and I'm DYING to know what it
says.
> It's an old haori and it has something written on it reminiscent
of
> Nagakura's vest with the poem. Can anyone decipher any of this?
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=29452&item=3945022516&rd=1


This is not Haori.
Correctly, it is Kimono called Joue.
http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~room884/joue.html

Formal clothes of Yamabushi.
http://www9.ocn.ne.jp/~sanjyuin/

Joue was an aristocrat's everyday wear at first.
It is made of cotton, it is white and there is no family crest.
In the subsequent time, the Shinto priest and the mountain priest
(Yamabushi) wore it.
(Although it is not related to Shinsengumi, many Yamabushis appear
in Taiga drama next year.)

Although it is written that this Joue is the thing of Meiji Era, it
is wonderful if it is true.
Although it is said that Kimono remains for 100 years, it is rare
that it is truly existing.
(If a material is hemp, it is still more so.)
Of course, when expensive Kimono is preserved carefully, it remains
finely.
A granddaughter is able to wear Kimono which the grandmother wore.


Incidentally, this is Haori.
http://www.craft.ne.jp/muromachi/kate1/page6.html

This store is producing the same Haori as Haori of Taiga drama.^^;;;


There is Happi with the clothes similar to Haori.
It is the clothes worn at the time of a festival.
Although it resembles Haori and is very cheap, it is the clothes
with which a use is different.
Although Happi of Shinsengumi is sold at tourist resorts, such as
Asakusa, please do not mistake it for Haori.^^;;;
Since Haori folds and wears a collar, it is made very finely.

momoiro-usagi

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