Shinsengumi in CA

I just stumbled across this on a SHisnengumi LJ community I just found


Shinsengumi to Sono Jidai' (Shinsengumi and Their Times)
Sept. 9, 2004 - 7:00pm at the Torrance Marriott
contact JAL's LA branch at (310)607-2330 for info.

I know we have Californians out there---Someone has to go and bring
us back information and pictures!!!

Barb Sheridan

I'll definately see about going there!

~Okita

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Subject: [SHQ] Shinsengumi in CA


I just stumbled across this on a SHisnengumi LJ community I just found


Shinsengumi to Sono Jidai' (Shinsengumi and Their Times)
Sept. 9, 2004 - 7:00pm at the Torrance Marriott
contact JAL's LA branch at (310)607-2330 for info.

I know we have Californians out there---Someone has to go and bring
us back information and pictures!!!

Barb Sheridan










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good and BAD news...the speaker on sept 9 will be Jiro Asada who wrote
Mibugishiden...now for the bad news...no translator...S. California is
home to a huge population of Japanese Americans not to mention major
universities with Japanese language dept. if you are upset then so am
I!!! I have PERSONALLY encouraged JAL to hire a translator for Mr.
Asada because as a native of CA I know that many anime fansubs are
from these universities. So I was outraged that JAL would send Mr.
Asada here without a translator. The lady on the line said that she
will speak to her superiors about getting a translator for Mr. Asada

For the S. CA (Torrance) lecture you can only pay with personal check
or money order over the phone and tickets will be mailed to you ASAP...
...furthermore there will be a second lecture again by Jiro Asada in
San Francisco on Sept 10 call (415) 765-8545 at the Palo Alto Hotel
but the focus will be more on the Bakumatsu.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "bsher213" wrote:
> I just stumbled across this on a SHisnengumi LJ community I just found
>
>
> Shinsengumi to Sono Jidai' (Shinsengumi and Their Times)
> Sept. 9, 2004 - 7:00pm at the Torrance Marriott
> contact JAL's LA branch at (310)607-2330 for info.
>
> I know we have Californians out there---Someone has to go and bring
> us back information and pictures!!!
>
> Barb Sheridan

The hotel in San Francisco is CROWNE PLAZA HOTEL in PALO ALTO....

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary" wrote:
> good and BAD news...the speaker on sept 9 will be Jiro Asada who wrote
> Mibugishiden...now for the bad news...no translator...S. California is
> home to a huge population of Japanese Americans not to mention major
> universities with Japanese language dept. if you are upset then so am
> I!!! I have PERSONALLY encouraged JAL to hire a translator for Mr.
> Asada because as a native of CA I know that many anime fansubs are
> from these universities. So I was outraged that JAL would send Mr.
> Asada here without a translator. The lady on the line said that she
> will speak to her superiors about getting a translator for Mr. Asada
>
> For the S. CA (Torrance) lecture you can only pay with personal check
> or money order over the phone and tickets will be mailed to you ASAP...
> ...furthermore there will be a second lecture again by Jiro Asada in
> San Francisco on Sept 10 call (415) 765-8545 at the Palo Alto Hotel
> but the focus will be more on the Bakumatsu.
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "bsher213" wrote:
> > I just stumbled across this on a SHisnengumi LJ community I just found
> >
> >
> > Shinsengumi to Sono Jidai' (Shinsengumi and Their Times)
> > Sept. 9, 2004 - 7:00pm at the Torrance Marriott
> > contact JAL's LA branch at (310)607-2330 for info.
> >
> > I know we have Californians out there---Someone has to go and bring
> > us back information and pictures!!!
> >
> > Barb Sheridan

arg... no translators?! *tear* and i was planning on going cuz it's only like 2 hours away...if my parents would let me, that is...lol...oh wait..baka desu!!! Its the first day of school, nvm... *depressed and wishing japanese sounded closer to chinese* sigh...i wonder if he'll give any more new info than what was in his book...

~Saitohworship
*i finally got my internet back!!!! XD soooo much emails... 204 in this group alone T_T

secretary <secretarytocapt3@...> wrote:
good and BAD news...the speaker on sept 9 will be Jiro Asada who wrote
Mibugishiden...now for the bad news...no translator...S. California is
home to a huge population of Japanese Americans not to mention major
universities with Japanese language dept. if you are upset then so am
I!!! I have PERSONALLY encouraged JAL to hire a translator for Mr.
Asada because as a native of CA I know that many anime fansubs are
from these universities. So I was outraged that JAL would send Mr.
Asada here without a translator. The lady on the line said that she
will speak to her superiors about getting a translator for Mr. Asada

For the S. CA (Torrance) lecture you can only pay with personal check
or money order over the phone and tickets will be mailed to you ASAP...
...furthermore there will be a second lecture again by Jiro Asada in
San Francisco on Sept 10 call (415) 765-8545 at the Palo Alto Hotel
but the focus will be more on the Bakumatsu.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "bsher213" wrote:
> I just stumbled across this on a SHisnengumi LJ community I just found
>
>
> Shinsengumi to Sono Jidai' (Shinsengumi and Their Times)
> Sept. 9, 2004 - 7:00pm at the Torrance Marriott
> contact JAL's LA branch at (310)607-2330 for info.
>
> I know we have Californians out there---Someone has to go and bring
> us back information and pictures!!!
>
> Barb Sheridan










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Maybe I'm out of the loop, but is Jiro Asada an actual authority on
the Shinsengumi? I know he wrote Mibugishiden, but that's like
saying Tom Clancy is a counter-terrorism expert because he wrote
Rainbow Six. Other than research for his book, is he any more
knowledgeable than the next guy?

Anyone have a link for the event, especially the San Francisco one?

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary"
wrote:

> good and BAD news...the speaker on sept 9 will be Jiro Asada who

wrote

> Mibugishiden...now for the bad news...no translator...S.

California is

> home to a huge population of Japanese Americans not to mention

major

> universities with Japanese language dept. if you are upset then

so am

> I!!! I have PERSONALLY encouraged JAL to hire a translator for Mr.
> Asada because as a native of CA I know that many anime fansubs are
> from these universities. So I was outraged that JAL would send Mr.
> Asada here without a translator. The lady on the line said that

she

> will speak to her superiors about getting a translator for Mr.

Asada

>
> For the S. CA (Torrance) lecture you can only pay with personal

check

> or money order over the phone and tickets will be mailed to you

ASAP...

> ...furthermore there will be a second lecture again by Jiro Asada

in

> San Francisco on Sept 10 call (415) 765-8545 at the Palo Alto Hotel
> but the focus will be more on the Bakumatsu.
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "bsher213" wrote:
> > I just stumbled across this on a SHisnengumi LJ community I just

found

> >
> >
> > Shinsengumi to Sono Jidai' (Shinsengumi and Their Times)
> > Sept. 9, 2004 - 7:00pm at the Torrance Marriott
> > contact JAL's LA branch at (310)607-2330 for info.
> >
> > I know we have Californians out there---Someone has to go and

bring

> > us back information and pictures!!!
> >
> > Barb Sheridan

Well, we didn't say he is an authority on the Shinsengumi. I doubt
many people would dare to make that claim seeing how in the short time
period the Shinsengumi existed, their intense record would cause
people to divide up different aspects of their duties and battle
theatres (Toba Fushimi, Nagarayema, Aizu and Hakodate).

At the request of SAitou, his secretary has made numerous calls now
and spoke to 2 different people...all I can say is this JAL has
contact info for translators in San Francisco and Torrance...It is UP
TO THEM to do their part. If you guys are interested please call them
and urge them to acquire translators...my goodness there are grad
students who would do this for free.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote:
> Maybe I'm out of the loop, but is Jiro Asada an actual authority on
> the Shinsengumi? I know he wrote Mibugishiden, but that's like
> saying Tom Clancy is a counter-terrorism expert because he wrote
> Rainbow Six. Other than research for his book, is he any more
> knowledgeable than the next guy?
>
> Anyone have a link for the event, especially the San Francisco one?
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary"
> wrote:
> > good and BAD news...the speaker on sept 9 will be Jiro Asada who
> wrote
> > Mibugishiden...now for the bad news...no translator...S.
> California is
> > home to a huge population of Japanese Americans not to mention
> major
> > universities with Japanese language dept. if you are upset then
> so am
> > I!!! I have PERSONALLY encouraged JAL to hire a translator for Mr.
> > Asada because as a native of CA I know that many anime fansubs are
> > from these universities. So I was outraged that JAL would send Mr.
> > Asada here without a translator. The lady on the line said that
> she
> > will speak to her superiors about getting a translator for Mr.
> Asada
> >
> > For the S. CA (Torrance) lecture you can only pay with personal
> check
> > or money order over the phone and tickets will be mailed to you
> ASAP...
> > ...furthermore there will be a second lecture again by Jiro Asada
> in
> > San Francisco on Sept 10 call (415) 765-8545 at the Palo Alto Hotel
> > but the focus will be more on the Bakumatsu.
> >
> > --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "bsher213" wrote:
> > > I just stumbled across this on a SHisnengumi LJ community I just
> found
> > >
> > >
> > > Shinsengumi to Sono Jidai' (Shinsengumi and Their Times)
> > > Sept. 9, 2004 - 7:00pm at the Torrance Marriott
> > > contact JAL's LA branch at (310)607-2330 for info.
> > >
> > > I know we have Californians out there---Someone has to go and
> bring
> > > us back information and pictures!!!
> > >
> > > Barb Sheridan

Perhaps not an authority, but as the key speaker(the one being
advertised), I think it's important for anyone interested in going
to know what they're paying for. Will Jiro Asada be presenting
anything insightful, or will this just be a press junket for his
latest Shinsengumi-based novel? I guess a better example would be
if the marquee speaker is the scriptwriter for that god-awful NHK
Shinsengumi series airing right now. He may have done some research
to write the script, but I doubt anyone would want to pay to hear
his "knowledge" of the Shinsengumi.

I'm wondering if Hillsborough will be doing anything like this,
especially when his new book comes out?

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary"
wrote:

> Well, we didn't say he is an authority on the Shinsengumi. I doubt
> many people would dare to make that claim seeing how in the short

time

> period the Shinsengumi existed, their intense record would cause
> people to divide up different aspects of their duties and battle
> theatres (Toba Fushimi, Nagarayema, Aizu and Hakodate).
>
> At the request of SAitou, his secretary has made numerous calls now
> and spoke to 2 different people...all I can say is this JAL has
> contact info for translators in San Francisco and Torrance...It is

UP

> TO THEM to do their part. If you guys are interested please call

them

> and urge them to acquire translators...my goodness there are grad
> students who would do this for free.

Yes tickets are $10, if you have JAL mileage its $5.00...
Torrance lecture concentrates on the Shinsengumi. San Francisco one
is more Bakumatsu...I share your concerns Alan...I was on the phone,
the lady asked if I had seen the TV ad? So I'm assuming that this
event will attract alot of attention in the Japanese community.

*yes, NHK's Shinsengumi does not advertise itself to be historically
accurate...it's just entertainment...I agree that NHK should be very
clear with some issues...perhaps the books sold concerning the
series points out what is history, rumors/folktales, or fiction...at
least I would hope that they feel some responsibility

*I hope Hillsborough will give lectures too when his book is
released...JAL is aware that Hillsborough has written a book in
English on the Shinsengumi

Many of us here understand and appreciate the synthesis between fact
and fiction but the bottom line...is the bottom line
$$$$$...personally, I hope that the hyper commercialization of the
shinsengumi will lead the few to appreciate their historical
relevance.

--- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" wrote:
> Perhaps not an authority, but as the key speaker(the one being
> advertised), I think it's important for anyone interested in going
> to know what they're paying for. Will Jiro Asada be presenting
> anything insightful, or will this just be a press junket for his
> latest Shinsengumi-based novel? I guess a better example would be
> if the marquee speaker is the scriptwriter for that god-awful NHK
> Shinsengumi series airing right now. He may have done some
research
> to write the script, but I doubt anyone would want to pay to hear
> his "knowledge" of the Shinsengumi.
>
> I'm wondering if Hillsborough will be doing anything like this,
> especially when his new book comes out?
>
> --- In SHQ@yahoogroups.com, "secretary"
> wrote:
> > Well, we didn't say he is an authority on the Shinsengumi. I
doubt
> > many people would dare to make that claim seeing how in the
short
> time
> > period the Shinsengumi existed, their intense record would cause
> > people to divide up different aspects of their duties and battle
> > theatres (Toba Fushimi, Nagarayema, Aizu and Hakodate).
> >
> > At the request of SAitou, his secretary has made numerous calls
now
> > and spoke to 2 different people...all I can say is this JAL has
> > contact info for translators in San Francisco and Torrance...It
is
> UP
> > TO THEM to do their part. If you guys are interested please
call
> them
> > and urge them to acquire translators...my goodness there are grad
> > students who would do this for free.