First of all, welcome, Tama-san ^^ Yoroshiku ^^ It's
great to see a Japanese on this list, as it will only
enrich more the discussion ^^
> Thank you for your welcome messages!
>
> In only book I have now with me called "Shinsengumi
> Jitsuroku"(Authentic
> records of Shinsengumi), author gives an interesting
> analys about Nagakura and
> Harada's secession after retreat from Koshu.
>
> Here is a resume.
>
> *Nagakura and Harada understand that Kondo
> transfered them the right to
> command during the retreat. And Nagakura make a
> proposal to march toward Aizu with
> current troop strength.
> *Nagakura who considers Kondo always as his fellow,
> is offended to see Kondo,
> now became a direct vassal of Shogun of 300 koku.
> *Kondo probably thinks it would be better to recrute
> more solders and after
> training, he' ll go to Aizu with them as the Supreme
> Commander.
> *So their discordant is due to different strategic
> point of view as well as
> their sentimental confrict.
That's pretty interesting, since in Nagakura's
"Shinsengumi Tenmatsuki" he says explicitly that they
parted ways because Kondo wanted to accept Nagakura
and Harada's proposal if and only if he (Kondo) would
be the supreme commander and the others would have to
be his vassals ("kerai"), without mentioning anything
on this strategic point of view.
I don't have the Bunkyu Roshi Shimatsuki (don't
remember if this was the correct name...) to check
this info, though. The Tenmatsuki is just too
novelized for my liking to be considered a trustworthy
source of info. I prefer Shinsengumi Shimatsuki and
Ibun in this aspect.
> I have no intenion to idealize Kondo, may be he
> became little bit haughty,
> but it was a point of view of Nagakura's side.
> As I know similer condition in the history, I guesse
> what might be happened
> in a defeated army.
Perhaps...
btw, changing the subject:
1) Sesshu (Setsutsu) sumi Ikeda Kijinmaru Kunishige:
Kunishige is the name of the swordsmith. Sesshu is the
name of the place. This is a sword forged in the Tenwa
Era and, as of 1986, it was worth about 50,000 US
dollars.
It is a Shinto (newer than Koto and older than
Shin-Shinto), classified as Jo-josaku (2nd highest
class in the aesthetical aspect) and as a Wazamono
(4th highest class in the blade sharpness aspect).
Source: "Touken Youran".
2) For those who like old anime, try finding an old
anime (from the 80's) called Haguregumo, produced by
Mad House. It features the Shinsengumi. I haven't
watched it, but I've seen some screenshots of it and
it's gorgeous, mixing sumi-e and ukiyo-e to draw
scenes and background.
3) Nagakura Shinpachi has lots of interesting tales...
the Kashiku pleasure woman thing, the murder of Haga
Gido (Yoshimichi?), the incident where he drank too
much with Saitou Hajime and Itou Kashitarou and was
almost condemned to death, the Ryubi no Ken incident
where he got wounded below the eye, the failed attempt
of murder of Kiyokawa Hachiro and others that were
already listed and/or discussed here, like the meeting
with Suzuki Mikisaburo. :)
4) Masayoshi, no offense intended, but I consider
Saigo Takamori a hero too :) The Ishin side has also
plenty of good and worthy man. Weren't for Saigo
Takamori, who could have understood the plea of
Yamaoka Tesshu / Katsu Kaishu and avoided bloodshed in
Edo? That's just one example to show that there were
good men in the Shogunate side and in the Ishin side,
as well as bad men in both, IMHO :)
Serizawa Kamo
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