>>And I still maintain the Gatotsu threat. I don't want anyone here who uses info we've gathered to be accused by someone unconnected to the group of stealing "their story" or "their data" because they have the same info. I will lead a mass charge in that person's defense. <<
That's why quoting the source (this ML) is the wiser thing to do, to avoid all the nasty thing of leading unnecessary mass charges.
Since the 'accuser party' is not a seer in most cases , and unless the accused one quotes the source previously, the accuser is absolutely entitled to suspicion, and I mean the historical data in this case. Sorry if I sound stubborn.
Honestly, if I find that any of my author notes is taken by someone else (comma by comma), and this person doesn't quote the source, I simply rip the guy/gal to bits. He/she can come with friends and protest all they like, but unless they provide real and solid proof, I simply don't back off, no matter how many charge (and believe me, I know, I faced mass charges). But, maybe it's just me...
It's the strict responsibility of the author to be clear about this, and avoid uncomfortable situations. It doesn't take too long to mention: thanks to the gals and guys in the SHQ ML, who provided ideas and historical data.
Concerning the plotlines, the right thing is, if you know a previous fic with a similar idea, to contact the author. It's also simple and quick, and avoid misunderstandings.
Firuze
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In a message dated 5/4/2004 2:47:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mindglue@... writes:
> > And as far as "Mary Sue Tokio" goes? If I don't like-ey, I don't
> >read-ey. End of story.
>
> Ah, but sometimes, you know, you just can't look away. It's such a
> train wreck, and you are drawn in...seduced by the grotesque. I
> guess, I sometimes read Mary Sue stories for the same reason I watch
> horror movies. Just as it is good to know my arm isn't being gnawed
> off by zombies, it is also good to know that I am -not- as bad of a
> writer as I sometimes like to think.
>
> > -MissBehavin (Has Saito ready to Gatotsu anyone who unjustly accuses
> our members of stealing data.)
>
> Ah, I see it now, the Shinsengumi-fans, gathering our boats, sailing
> off into the wide-wide internet, our Makoto flags unfurled, our
> eyepatches and parrots in tow...
>
> "Arrrrr. We're here for your DATA. We've come to pillage
> your
> research. Hand it over, or feel our wrath!
>
> Angrybee.
I understand all that about the train wreck. Done that a time or two myself. But I was thinking, we've all recently seen a "Mary Sue" in a popular anime and loved her to death! Who do I mean? Ayu-nee! She fits the criteria laid down almost exactly in that 1) Everyone loves her, 2) She's always solving everyone's problems for them with her advice and 3) even though the Shinsengumi are master swordsmen, it is sadly apparent she can kick most of their tails... So, Mary Sue-nee anyone? (Yes, I know she's an "original" character, but she probably began as a "Mary Sue" somewhere, ne?)
And I still maintain the Gatotsu threat. I don't want anyone here who uses info we've gathered to be accused by someone unconnected to the group of stealing "their story" or "their data" because they have the same info. I will lead a mass charge in that person's defense. Going several rounds with the goldfish and then it's evil brother has made me cranky. Esp. after I realized I've HAD the info I've been looking for all along! -_- Sometimes, you really can have TOO much info.
Yeah, there's another translator service we can gripe about now. It's called Alis Translation Solutions and the name of the program is Gist. For good reason. That's about all you'll get of the page - the gist. (On a serious note, in some cases it's worse, but in others the translation is clearer and easier to figure out.)
-MissBehavin (being glared at by Saito, who was under the false impression he was going to see some immediate action...)
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